I have seen the clog page & have found it somewhat useful. It seems to be limited on which messages can be view @ a time. Basically 1 of the issue I'm trying to determine why using the FQDN doesn't work for IPsec. I got the tunnel to come right up when connecting the other end to IPCop, but then I saw in the messaging where the errors where & correct them on the spot. CLOG isn't showing me anything useful.